From: "Glen Meloy"

Subject  Sai Baba's Vedic Chart Summary

Date: Sábado, 21 de Octubre de 2000 12:32 p.m.

Dear Former Devotees and Supporters of Truth and Goodness,

One of our ardent former devotees took it upon herself to ask a Vedic Astrologer friend by the name of Doug Riemer to do a vedic chart on Sai Baba.

Doug Riemer has graciously given permission to repost his work, but please give proper credit when doing so. (See below).

Doug's Home Page is at Doug Riemer http://www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com

When the page is loaded, please click on the little moon that is captioned "Works" and that will take you to the Baba Chart.

For those of you who are into Vedic Readings, I hope you will find this interesting and informative and that you will share your views with the other former devotees.

I am not an expert on vedic readings, but it appears that this was a very carefully prepared chart and I know that Doug would also like to have some feedback from you about his work.

For Truth and Goodness,

Jai Expose'

Glen

Sai Baba's Vedic birth chart and Dasas - planetary cycles

Born November 23, 1926 at 5:06 AM in Puttaparthy, India 77E45"    14N15' 

Ascendant 18:34' Libra

Sai Baba¹s Vedic Chart Summary

The Karmic Ebbs And Flows Of A Man Who Would Be A God

     Integral to Hinduism is the belief that gods reincarnate at the time and place when mankind most needs their prophetic teachings.  Following this theme, saints, who are godly by nature due to their enlightenment, also reincarnate to support humanity.  Yet, there seems to be uncertainty, at least from this Western cultural perspective, as to how godly a saint, reincarnated or in his/her original life, may be.  One thing seems certain, however.  The Indians' beliefs in gods, saints and reincarnation is so fundamental to their culture that they, and international adherents to their faith, can be taken in by false prophets. (Similarly, throughout the world, cultures have often followed secular and religious false prophets who offer stressed people solutions to their problems through religious or political teachings.)

     As a Vedic Astrologer from the West, I do not pretend to comprehend the complex hierarchies of Indian gods and saints.  I can only render an opinion as to whether the past life karmas in Sai Baba¹s Vedic chart indicate a saintly individual or one who uses psychic abilities to promote selfish goals, as is recently being reported.

     This Summary Interpretation cites specific karmic influences which dispute Sai Baba¹s godly nature and support his manipulations for personal gain.  It is being freely offered to cast some light of truth on a situation which has caused many former devotees much anguish and promises to disappoint, if not actually harm, the many millions of the still faithful.  Please note that beyond my studies of Vedic Astrology, I have no spiritual orientation or affiliation with any individual or group.

     That Sai Baba has psychic abilities is shown by the tremendous planetary energies on his 8th house of the occult from five planets casting aspects (glances) to that house.  Interestingly, however, the 8th cannot function in a healthy fashion for its ruler, Venus (love), is ruined by being absolutely combust (burnt) by the Sun and is further harmed by malefic (harmful) energies from restrictive Saturn, an injured Mercury (intellect) and a particularly vicious Mars (the planet of war).  The man may indeed have tremendous psychic abilities in "reading" people, but his vision is not clear.  That ruined Venus is placed in the 2nd house of speech indicates that truthfulness is an issue.  Harmful influences from other planets upon the 2nd house reinforce this trait, while at the same time bring a powerful speaking ability, as well as wealth.  That warrior Mars aspects the 2nd house, where Saturn resides, creates a criminal disposition, and since the 2nd house is money by one¹s own efforts, the saint would steal from others.

     Venus, which in its higher form is love of god and in its lower form is addictions and excessive carnal desire/activity, must operate in the most base fashion.  That Venus is less than 1/4 of a degree from the Sun ties this impure and unclear psychic strength to his ego.  In other words, he is both selfish and unconcerned about the welfare of others.  That Venus is next to cold Saturn indicates sex for money. That an immoral and very powerful Mars aspects Venus creates an unhealthy sexual passion and lack of virtue.  Combined, these are a fixed karma for sexual deviation.

     The other truly provocative planetary disposition is that of the Moon (perceptional mind).  Sai Baba¹s bright Moon rules the 10th house of career and is placed in the 9th house of higher knowledge. This calls for a powerful and successful spiritual career.  However, the Moon is closely conjunct Rahu, an eclipse point that is symbolized by the top half of a snake in Vedic mythology.  Rahu signifies worldly cravings and desires, an as such it is an intensifying and intoxicating influence.  With the Moon, Rahu may add to Sai Baba¹s psychic abilities, but it also causes false imaginings, mental derangements and even possession by astral beings or ghosts.  The Moon¹s perceptional mind, how we interact with and perceive the world, is thus volatile and distrusting.  He may be paranoid.  The most impactive consideration of this Moon/Rahu combination, however, is that these planets are placed in the 9th house of fortune and higher knowledge, where they influence for great wealth but also for bizarre philosophies.

     Looking at his Dasa cycles graphic, one can see that Sai Baba was born under Rahu, which was a very difficult start in life.  His subperiod planets (not shown) at the time of birth were the Moon and Jupiter (expansion and religion). This last is interesting, for Jupiter is a planet of impulse and egoism in this chart, and it¹s placement in the 4th house of the unconscious makes religion dear to his heart.  Therefore, at birth, Sai Baba was imprinted with the maximum influence for perceptional and emotional derangement.  Jupiter¹s influence was to both expand this an give it an additional religious bent.

     Keeping the above combination in mind, when Sai Baba declared himself a saint on October 20, 1940, he was running his impulsive and egotist religious Jupiter Dasa, and his subperiod planets were the Moon and Jupiter. Now, these planets together give faith and devotion, ordinarily a wonderful combination, but with the Moon¹s bizarre philosophies, he convinced himself that he was a god.

     Sai Baba has been running his 20 year Venus Dasa since 1988, which explains the reported misconduct but also his continued strong psychic powers.  Given that his psychic skills are strong but somehow injured and that he is probably a paranoid ego maniac, he doubtless exaggerates his own abilities.  Thus, his manifesting has been observed to be sleight-of-hand tricks.  His chart does show excellent hands skills in his 3rd house and in his powerful Mars, but age has diminished his ability to deceive, even as he still may believe he actually manifests.

     Currently, Sai Baba is still running his Venus Dasa, and his subperiod Dasa planet is Jupiter (3/4/98 - 11/2/2000), which gives some protection but also influences for him to dissipate in perverted sexual pleasures while at the same time giving the appearance of devotion.  After Jupiter comes the Saturn subperiod, which will stimulate further degraded actions and restrict both money and his ability to persuade, even as he may at the same time appear the most convincing.

     To peer further into Sai Baba¹s future in terms of worldly events, we look to transits, which are passages of the planets in today¹s skies over the birth chart.  Jupiter and Saturn are the important transiting planets for their size and long length of time in each sign/house.  Beginning in early June of 2000, Sai Baba¹s Jupiter and Saturn together entered the 8th house of the occult.  As an evil house, however, the 8th brings turmoil and reversals, sometimes even catastrophes and downfalls.  These 8th house

transits seem to be proving disastrous for Sai Baba, as would be expected, even as Jupiter has been protective by virtue of its subperiod Dasa.  This transit continues until 6/7/2001, when Jupiter moves out of the house.

     When protective Jupiter yields to restrictive Saturn on 11/2/2000 in the Dasa system, however, life will greatly tighten up for Sai Baba.  "Because it is Saturn¹s essential purpose to temper the soul, it attacks our weak points to drive us to maturity." So, we would expect his problems to become more grave in just a few weeks, and by next June, a true downfall may have occurred.

     A chart has many, almost endless, karmic influences that describe a life.  This Summary has attempted to focus upon dominant lifelong and cyclical karmas that pertain to the current situation.  It is hoped these thoughts will put a little salve on the wounds of devotees whose beliefs have been shattered by this saint who is truly only a man, and a not very nice man at that.  

     In closing, I offer a path of hope for Sai Baba, which may mitigate some of the damage he has done.  The 8th house turmoil stimulates the person to break from one fixed pattern into another because the problems it causes are so egregious that the person is sometimes literally forced into reexamining his life and seeking a better life path. This upcoming downfall can thereby be turned into an opportunity to atone.  Yet, redemption and forgiveness, whether by individuals or institutions, appears unattainable in this incarnation.

     This interpretation was composed October 18, 2000 by Doug Riemer.  Permission is hereby granted for public distribution of this interpretation by any means to facilitate bringing truth to light.  To avoid misunderstandings in any such reproduction, please reference this website address www.PredictiVevedicAstrology.com  and indicate whether the information is either complete or excerpted.